tentative start to reassessment of mid-Eighties at this ILM thread, you sorta kinda sense people circumspectly and almost-surreptitiously scoping out to see if there's any subcult capital AT ALL to be gleaned from those Big Flame Stump Bogshed Hula Chakk Wolfgang Press etc records or whether it's best to just leap ahead to the late 80s  and be done with it