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In celebration of World Goth Day, here's my Los Angeles Times piece on Cruel World, the festival of Goth and mope-rock that takes place just up the road from us in Pasadena. It's also a mini-thinkpiece on the perennial allure of Goth as a subcultural option and style identity. 

It's a sequel to last year's blog report on the debut Cruel World. 

Last year, the main draw for me was first-time sightings of PiL and Devo, plus Morrissey (not seen since his solo debut in Wolverhampton in 1988). This time round offered the opportunity to see Siouxsie (but not the Banshees) for the first time; Iggy Pop for the first time since 1988;  and Echo & the Bunnymen for the first time since 1984. It would also have been an opportunity to see Adam & the Ants for the first time since 1980 (the very eve of Antmania) except he pulled out at the last minute, to be replaced by the not very Gothic or mopey Squeeze. As for my first-time Human League live experience - another attraction - their excellence was truncated by an extreme weather event! Headliners Iggy and Siouxsie got rescheduled to the next day, which resulted in the oddness of my first-time and second-time live encounters with Gary Numan occurring on successive days (for unknown reasons he got to play a whole set again). Unfortunately he was shit both times. 

With a lot of these acts, you can't help thinking morbidly that as well as the first time or first-time-since, it's most likely the last time - either they'll snuff it, or you will. 

Offcuts and further thoughts: 

The nostalgia pitch of Cruel World is a little odd, if you think about it – remember the good old days when you felt so bad? When you thought about suicide, wrote tortured poetry, dressed in black to externalize your despair, and imagined you'd never have a girlfriend or boyfriend? When bands like the Smiths, the Cure, and Joy Division were lifesavers? It’s a form of fidelity to the younger you, a refusal to grow out of it and leave it all behind. To stay connected with the purity of that period of doubt, dread and anguish. 

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One song  Echo and the Bunnymen played was “Lips Like Sugar”, the nearest they ever came to a hit in America. It’s always struck me as a killer chorus looking for a verse and pre-chorus.  Love and Rockets likewise felt like a great guitarist looking for a matching rhythm section and some decent tunes.  Just like with last year’s Bauhaus show, Daniel Ash’s gnarly but intricately textured racket, as heard on tunes like “Mirror People”, was a highlight. But everything was a mid or low light.

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Iggy's shirtless physique is fascinating in its combination of muscle and wrinkle. You can't tear your eyes off it, the way the flesh ripples, seems to simultaneously tauten and sag. The skin looks like a topographical map of the Rockies, the snake-like squiggle of distended veins on his chest resembling dried up gulches seen from far aloft. It makes him seem monumental: like he's been carved into rock’s equivalent of Rushmore – then broke loose to keep on marauding stages across the world.

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Unlike Iggy, who understands the strengths of his own back catalogue, Siouxsie repeated the Numan Error.  Instead of using her extended set time to disinter classics from A Kiss in the Dreamhouse or play the Goth National Anthem “Fireworks”, she played no less than four songs from the little-loved solo album Mantaray. There was a tune off the Batman Returns soundtrack and a pair of duds from 1986’s sparkless Tinderbox.  One unusual choice that did entrance was “But Not Them” from her percussion-and-voice side project The Creatures.  

It’s noticeable that the video projections oscillated in quality and imagination in parallel with the tunes – “Christine” came with a mesmerizing psychedelic kaleidoscope, whereas Batman tune “Face To Face” clunkily deployed cat’s eyes. 

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Goths as victims of violence: this I remember only too vividly from attending a show by Killing Joke  circa Fire Dances (supported by Play Dead).  Inside the theatre, it was all menace and apocalypse. But outside the Queensway Hall, the fearsome-looking Goths dispersed peaceably, and it was a gang of ordinary lads, hooligans with no subcultural affiliation, who looked around for someone who looked punky but weak enough to attack - and saw me. I got chased all across Dunstable, bottles whizzing past my head at intervals. It was only through the intervention of a burly middle-aged bloke who sized up the situation instantly (no, I had not "bottled some cunt" as the instant false accusation rang out!) and held them off long enough for me to make a getaway, that saved me from receiving a good kicking. I sprinted back to the center and rejoined my younger brother, sheltering in the protection of a kindly black-clad crew. We waited for our mother to pick us up in the car. 

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On the perennial allure of the look - although closer to a Bunnyman in appearance in those days, I married into the tribe. 

Bane of my life

There's a really cool new Optimo collection out now: Cease & Resist – Sonic Subversion & Anarcho Punk In The UK 1979​-​86. Compiled by JD Twitch and Chris Low, it makes a strong case for anarcho as a musically interesting genre, at its best a separate flank of post-punk experimentalism, albeit tethered always to a didactic agit-prop agenda. Still, it shows that far from utterly imbalanced towards Content (as with so much straight-edge hardcore), the anarcho-punx did have some time for formal concerns - being in the UK, they were perhaps  swayed by the postpunk idea in circulation that radical messages required equally radical delivery-systems (a.k.a. music). 

Here's a piece by Charlie Bertsch on the compilation, which can be heard and procured here. 

Here's a Kill Your Pet Puppy piece on the compilation and on another Chris Low-curated project, Best B4 1984: Fanzine and Flyer Images from the Anarcho-Punk Underground.  And here is also is  a mix he did a while back of anarcho-punk.

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My younger brothers were really into anarcho - they had the Crass records, later on they got stuff by  Discharge. 

Crass's "Bloody Revolutions" , the third track on Cease & Resist, got a hell of a lot of play in our household. Such that hearing it again for the first time in an eon, every vocal inflection, every lyric was instantly familiar - like seeing the face of an old friend.  Regardless of whether you agree with the "all government's  the same" argument (I don't), the searing conviction with which it's delivered by Steve Ignorant and Eve Libertine is thrilling. 

But my absolute favorite on this comp is one I don't remember hearing  at the time: Honey Bane's "Girl On the Run". Almost unfeasibly exciting. 

 

It's basically Crass backing her up - under the alias Donna & the Kebabs, Donna Boylan being Bane's real name

The whole three tracker including "Porno Grows" and "Boring Conversations"

This Top of the Pops clip of her pop-move under Jimmy Pursey's tutelage could not be more New Wave, from the inorganic color palette to the lyric about "plastic vision" to the anti-TV politique.  

The Honey Bane tune that I cherish most in the memory - and that entranced me as a 16-year old listening to Peel - is "Violence Grows" by Fatal Microbes. 

So chuffed to be able to get that onto the Rip It Up and Start Again compilation. 

Honey Bane was some kind of real life runaway -  only 14 when she formed Fatal Microbes.  If memory serves, she was taken in by some nice anarcho-punk squatters. 

Now musically I preferred postpunk to anarcho-punk by a long way, but for a while there I did have semi-serious truck with anarchism as a politics. But when I joined the anarchist group at university, it was quickly disillusioning. They were either ineffectual (quel surpise that anarchists would be disorganized eh?) and hippie-ish. Or in a few cases, macho types, up-for-a-ruck headcases into the idea of violent disorder for its own sake. 

Nowadays I would say we need more order not less. There's people and forces that need curbing and being told to behave themselves. World government or the whole world goes kaput - it's that simple. Ministry for the Future with sweeping supranational powers, issuing diktats to save the biosphere. 

As for the immediate American context, the choices are either a second Reconstruction (one that finishes the job this time) or Partition.  

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More Bane 

A move towards pop too far with this cover - a Supremely flimsy bit o' fluff

On the flipside, a  comment on becoming a product of the pop assembly line? 

 

The next single's title "Wish I Could Be Me" seems wistful when set against the earlier solo-career launching proclamation "You Can Be You" - "sick and tired of losing my own identity".   Watered-down Toyah, if such a thing could be imagined. 

Crikey, she / they kept on trying. 

Let's rewind to the start 

Wiki-Fear

I call it Wiki-Fear. You know what I'm talking about. That twinge of apprehension just before clicking open a Wikipedia entry. It could be a song, an album, an artist. Something new to me -  or something I've known for years without ever knowing much about. The trepidation comes from experience: there's a pretty good chance you'll learn something that'll spoil your enjoyment. 

Sometimes it's just the diminishment of discovering the specific inspiration for a song, what it's about or means. The open-ended mystery, that might have been a large part of the attraction, gets nailed down to the clunkily concrete. Or something actively off-putting. 

Worse, much worse, is when you discover something bad about the artist. This is especially unpleasant when the misdeed contradicts what the artwork or artist otherwise seems to embody and represent.

Almost as bad is finding out about an upsetting or degrading life outcome: a tragedy, a decline, some form of subsequent squalor or sordidness that enveloped the artist. 

Yet another category of unpleasant surprise: learning that the artist has political opinions (or other beliefs) that are unwholesome or embarrassing. 

For me, Wiki-Fear mostly pertains to music, simply because that's what I'm usually looking up. But it can happen just as easily with a film, director, actor.  Or a writer.  Anyone in the creative arts or the entertainment field. 

To give you specific examples, while avoiding spoilers (why ruin songs and singers for you like they've been semi-ruined for me?), here, stripped of identifying marks, are some cases that have taught me to be Wiki-wary. 

Discovering that a singer renowned in the 1970s for his luminous celebrations of matrimonial love had been guilty of wife-beating.

Discovering that the singer of a much-loved song – a classic meta-music anthem – ended up committing suicide. (So much for music-as-lifesaver).

Discovering that an endearing actress I know mostly for her turn in a 1970s cult movie later tried to get a hit job on her father and on the husband of her equally endearing actress sister (the husband himself a likeable comic actor of the same era). This reflects badly not just on the actress but potentially on the other parties involved, since you can't help wondering what drove her to it.... 

Discovering that a writer who wrote a classic novel (the kind of book that blows you away when you’re an adolescent but endures with subsequent grown-up rereadings) had attempted rape in his youth.

Thing is, as much as you might strive to separate singer and song, follow the adage “trust the art, not the artist,” you can’t unknow these things once you've learned them. I sometimes forget the details (my brain these days being sieve-like when it comes to input sticking) but a tinge of uneasiness clings on. And it's easy to refresh that knowledge - it's just a click away. 

Despite all this, it's still irresistible to go searching on the Internet, when you've just listened to (or watched or read) something new and exciting, or when you've rediscovered an old favorite about which you never knew much simply because there was nowhere to go to find out. And often the things you find out end up enriching your enjoyment. Or they are just interesting tidbits that sit harmlessly alongside the enjoyment. But always there’s the possibility that you'll discover something nasty. 

Hence Wiki-Fear.

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There's a new book out that explores exactly this kind of messy entanglement of contrary emotions stirred up by discrepancies between artistic virtue and artistic conduct:  Claire Dederer’s Monsters: A Fan’s Dilemma. The book started with her celebrated 2017 Paris Review essay "What Do We Do With the Art of Monstrous Men?".

Reading one of the first pieces on the book, in The Atlantic, I was surprised to see my name pop up:

The most resonant chapter in Monsters explores what she calls “the stain,” a thing that is “creeping, wine-dark, inevitable.” She borrows the term from the music critic Simon Reynolds, whom she messages to ask his opinion of Michael Jackson. How has his relationship with Jackson’s music changed in light of accusations that he sexually abused boys? He responds,

i am currently trying to do the aesthetico-moral calculus thing re. MJ’s music, like, is the Jackson 5 stuff okay? … does the stain work its way backwards through time?

Jackson was a child himself when he was in the Jackson 5, so presumably he wasn’t abusing any children then—in fact, Jackson later said he had been the victim of abuse by his harsh and domineering father. So why would we worry about listening to his early music? Dederer thinks we can’t help it. The spreading of the blotch “is not a choice,” she says. “It’s already too late. It touches everything. Our understanding of the work has taken on a new color, whether we like it or not.”

Dederer explores this idea of the Stain further in a Guardian essay adapted from the book, although here I am anonymized as “a music critic”.

The remark quoted in Monsters was made around the time Leaving Neverland  was first aired. Apart from being a bit of a mouthful, "aesthetico-moral" is slightly misleading. I wasn't really musing in terms of censoriousness or even complicity (guilt about being the consumer of works by reprehensible people). It’s not about cancelling - the removal of an artist from the cultural menu. It’s more about each individual's personal discomfort level - the stickiness and ickiness of unsavory knowledge once it’s been acquired *.  To stick with the metaphors of cuisine and diet: it's about a bad taste in your mouth;  about your taste in art competing and clashing with distaste for behavior.   

The nitty-gritty of such calculus can be at once silly and excruciating. In the aftermath of watching Leaving Neverland, I found myself speculating pointlessly: "well, probably he wasn’t abusing anyone circa Off The Wall. "  Thriller – hmmm.... gets a bit cloudier. (But equally, that is an album I could happily dispense with, apart from maybe "Human Nature”.  Even "Billie Jean" I wouldn't mind never hearing again).  By the time you get to Bad - and everything thereafter – it's clear something's gone awfully awry in the Kingdom of Michael. Just look at what he’s done to his face. Just listen to the strained screams he's emitting. It's easy to believe bad things are going down behind the scenes. Plus, even more than Thriller, it's music I can live without. 

In practice, though, the stain does tend to seep backwards through time, because the child is the father of the man - it's the same person. Seep backwards to leave its sticky-icky mark on those beloved Off the Wall  songs...  The Jackson’s glorious Triumph...  the wondrous Destiny singles “Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)" and “Blame It On the Boogie”..... perhaps even all the way back to The Jackson 5. 

"Discomfort" is the right word. The sensation is physical – you hear “Don’t Stop 'til You Get Enough” or “Rock With You” on the radio and the groove pulls at your body, you feel yourself melting into the ecstasy of Jackson’s vocals. But then an equal and opposite force wrenches you in the other direction. You can't simply surrender, let yourself be swept up. The flooding pleasure is checked. 

When mulling over these issues - which cut a potentially culling swathe through many of my favorite artists of all time, figures like Iggy Pop - I sometimes feel an impulse to stake out a stubborn, no-nonsense position: it's childish to expect artists to be model human beings with immaculate records when it comes to interpersonal conduct.  Artists are, as often as not, not-nice. Very far from fully-rounded beings. The risks they take in their lives seem inseparable from the risks they take in their art. To do what they do, perhaps they need to be reckless and ruthless. ** What produces great results in one domain, spills over into another. 

It seems equally childish to expect an artist's political views to align with one's own political values (and especially absurd to expect artists from past eras to be in line with today's progressive principles). 

Then again, picking an example close to home, what are you supposed to feel when one of your favorite artists of the 2ist Century turns up for the big Jan 6 treason party, and then later appears on Tucker Carlson,  talking absurdly about Democrats as "sore winners". Even knowing that trolling, spite and nihilism have always been integral to the artist's creative engine, it's stuff that's hard to push out of your mind when you feel the urge to put on "The Ballad of Bobby Pyn" or "White Freckles." 

Another twist to the calculus, a ruse to reduce the personal discomfort level, is to say to yourself: "well, no one was actually hurt during the making of this record".  Take “Rock and Roll, Pt 1 + Pt 2” : the only injury done was to Mike Leander and Gary Glitter's livers from the amount of booze consumed during the session.  If Glitter’s memoir can be trusted, his corruption occurred later, in the throes of the superfame that then ensued. (He recounts a specific incident where Keith Moon upbraids him for “wasting” the teenage fans who are waiting outside Glitter's London home and virtually shoves him into the bedroom with one of them). 

Conversely, there are examples of artworks and entertainments whose production directly involved damage. Hostile work environments, demeaning treatment, exploitative conditions, emotional abuse, sexual assault in the midst of the making. Many classic films that involved child performers might now be construed as constitutively abusive (no matter how passionately the young aspiring stars wanted to do the work). The recent documentary about Brooke Shields shed unflattering light on everyone from her mother-manager to many of her directors.

Perhaps Claire Dederer has worked out some answers....

* The concept of the stain, as a form of adhesive obliquity, is analogous to what I call the sample-stain  (when an artist you don't like samples a record you love... as a result, whenever you hear the original sample-source record, there is a kind of audio-hyperlink inextricably attached to it that propels you through time to the later perpetrator, which rather clouds your enjoyment. Conversely there is a positive version of this syndrome:  the sample-glow (also known as the sample-epiphany).

** The first, "bad boys of rock" section of The Sex Revolts is largely situated in this zone (note the title of Dederer's original article - "what do we do with the art of monstrous men?" - because it's nearly always men that are the monsters, isn't it?).  Here the argument is that the psycho-dynamic engine of the music is bound-up with impulses that - translated into real life, as they too often are - are destructive and dominating, misogynist and megalomaniacal. 

  

Further debate on these issues in the comments box over here

new shoots

The blogscene seems more dormant than it's ever been. Heartening, then, to see a burst of discursive energy over at Aloysius, breaking a long silence with a model display of  close listening. In this case, listening to "banging unintelligent techno" by The Advent and Joey Beltram (highlighting JB's "ear for choosing sounds with strong phonetic properties"), Model 500's Deep Space ("science fiction as it seemed when I was a kid: not cheesy and man-childish, but mysterious, vast, and wise"), Francois Bayle's Grande Polyphonie ("a series of sound-character studies....  a comprehensible chaos"), and Baby Ford & Ian B's "Dead Eye" ("submersion in complete darkness... awed apprehensiveness of moving forward through an unknown and dangerous-seeming environment").

Aloysius's post ends, incidentally, with one of the best "bloggaz 4 life" sign-offs ever. 

Over here, things have been quiet too - I have a heap of posts waiting to be written up, but been busy with various developments.  

Most substantial of recent postige is this Hardly Baked 2 megasplat on the nexus of late glam, prog and incipient New Wave, which started with me stumbling on a Split Enz promo which is mindblowingly godawful except for about 30 seconds in the middle when it's mindblowing, and then swelled into a sprawling video and jpeg-illustrated tour of similar cusp-straddling middle-Seventies monstrosities. Indeed, I keep adding new clips 'n' pix 'n' dollops of data.  

At Energy Flash, I also look into an unlikely source of the words "rave" and "raver" in the Brit Sixties.  

But here at the hub blog, it's mostly been a grim, endless procession of RIPs. Perhaps I should just go ahead and rename it Griefblog...

A couple of extracurricular activities:

In Taiwan last month I did an interview with Brian Hioe and Florence Yi-Hsun Huang for the webzine No Man Is An Island, which is connected to a publication called New Bloom - touching mostly on ideas related to Energy Flash and Retromania as well as the politics of music in general, my career to date, etc.

Just out now is a new installment of Sombrero Fallout, a podcast created by Ian Forth, an old college associate and early contributor to Margin, the zine that preceded Monitor.  This episode features me chatting with Ian about  a bunch of my favorite records, from Ian Dury and the Slits via  Jan Garbarek and World Domination Enterprises to Migos and June Tabor.  

RIP Mark Stewart

Well, that is gutting news about Mark Stewart, going way too early. 

I always really enjoyed talking with Mark - and unusually, for a musician, he said that he really enjoyed talking to journalists. Even, or especially, journos who challenged him (as with a famous face-off between I Punman and Pop Group / Slits / Y tribe in 1980). He thrived on the exchange of ideas. 

The pic above is by Richard Bellia and was taken in November 1987 when I first met Mark. It was a Melody Maker interview about his great self-titled album of that year. We chatted in this canal-side pub down the road from Mute Records. No idea who this old bloke in the photo is - someone on the street that Mark roped into the shot!  

Apart from the thrilling sounds he made in The Pop Group and solo (not forgetting his collaborative role with Tricky and others), his never-ending enthusiasm for new things in music, the West Country accent he kept all his life, the main thing that springs to mind thinking of Mark Stewart is how fucking tall he was. Literally - as well as postpunk historically - a giant.

Elsewhere - xenogothic pays tribute and helpfully samples / links to other people's tributes

The above is the first Pop Group record I bought (double A-side with The Slits's fabulous "In the Beginning There Was Rhythm").  Chic meets Gramsci's "pessimism of the intellect / optimism of the will".

"Don't Sell  Your Dreams" came close to being the title of the postpunk book but was pipped at the post when a chap called Jonathan O'Brien suggested Rip It Up and Start Again (in this book-naming competition I did on this blog - scroll down a bit here). But it would have made a fine and era-emblematic title, I think. 

Now I think about, Mark's song on the first New Age Steppers album, "Crazy Dreams and High Ideals"  would also have made a great title for the book-that-would-be-Rip-It-Up.

As indeed would have the title of the dub version, which has the words the other round: "High Ideals and Crazy Dreams" 

Now I do not agree with the sentiment in this song (we are not equally culpable and complicit in the Shitstem) but I love the ferocity with which The Pop Group put it across. 

The first time I heard "Thief of Fire" it was actually Loop's terrific (differently terrific) version.

Robert Hampson had that whole pre-Loop life as a postpunk experimentalist, into 23 Skidoo and that kind of thing. Which he semi-reverted to with Main. 

Another group who early on were audibly scarred by The Pop Group, also Pere Ubu, was The Birthday Party. Famously they came to the UK expecting all groups to sound as intense as "She Is Beyond Good and Evil"....

You can hear it in the screech-squawk vocals, the paroxysmic punk-funk

Even the title Prayers On Fire is very Pop Group 

RIP Ryuichi Sakamoto

 Here's my Pitchfork tribute to world citizen Ryuichi Sakamoto, who died a few days ago.

YMO lay claim to "techno" in 1983

And here's a playlist I pulled together, a highlights and landmarks guided tour through his prolific genius, from Yellow Magic Orchestra, through solo albums like the still-astonishing B-2 Unit and Esperanto, to collaborations like the gorgeous strangeness of "Bamboo Houses / Bamboo Music" (with David Sylvian) and his wonderful string of albums with Alva Noto. 

Here's a really interesting piece by Dan Barrow on Sakamoto's work and the background to it in terms of Japanese politics + culture, at Jacobin. 

A piece by David Hudson at the Criterion Daily about Sakamoto: "It All Seems Limitless" 

Geeta Dayal has made available for free inspection a piece she wrote about Yellow Magic Orchestra for Groove magazine in 2006, including an interview with Sakamoto. And just a few months ago she wrote this piece about Sakamoto's 12 for 4Columns. 

Reminding me that a few years ago I wrote for 4Columns about this compilation of Japanese "interior music" and 4th World sounds, Kankyō Ongaku: Japanese Ambient, Environmental & New Age Music 1980–1990, in which Sakamoto (and Hosono) are both mentioned. 

Toop x 2

- a tribute penned for The Wire. 

-  Sakamoto and "outernationalism", from Ocean of Sound

Check out RS's film Adelic Penguins from 1985

https://youtu.be/A-nJPWJE0cs

And this I dreamt, and this I dream

And some time this I will dream again

And all will be repeated, all be re-embodied

You will dream everything I have seen in dream

To one side from ourselves, to one side from the world

Wave follows wave to break on the shore

On each wave is a star, a person, a bird

Dreams, reality, death - on wave after wave

No need for a date; I was, I am, and I will be

Life is a wonder of wonders, and to wonder

I dedicate myself, on my knees, like an orphan

Alone - among mirrors - fenced in by reflections

Cities and seas, iridescent, intensified

A mother in tears takes a child on her lap

RIP SPOT

Joe Carducci writes of the late legendary SST Records producer-engineer SPOT: 

"I hate to type out the words but... SPOT passed away after 10am today/Saturday (Mar. 4, 2023) at Morningside Healthcare in Sheboygan, Wisconsin.... 

"SPOT didn't dwell a lot on his personal history but I believe he was born in Los Angeles, grew up in the Crenshaw neighborhood, moved to Hermosa Beach in the mid-70s, moved to his favorite Black Flag tour stop, Austin Texas, in the mid-80s and then to Sheboygan to be near his favorite Celtic music scenes in Milwaukee and Chicago. His father was Claybourne Lockett who was a Tuskegee Airman who flew British Spitfires and Spot told me once his mother was Native American and from New Orleans...  

"SPOT was a musician and writer and photographer who spelled his name in all caps with a dot in the middle of the O. His principal sideline was as a record producer-engineer and an architect of the natural approach to recording a band in the punk era. He started in Hermosa Beach playing and recording jazz and he took the primacy of live jazz playing into recording bands against prevailing attempts to soften or industrialize a back-to-basics arts movement in sound. 

"When approaching the mixing board SPOT would assume an Elvis-like stance and then gesturing toward all the knobs he would say in a Louis Armstrong-like voice, "This is going to be gelatinous!" 

"His recorded work as player and producer is listed at discogs.com. I'll be going through his writing with an eye toward publishing a collection including his writings on jazz for the Hermosa Beach free weekly. He spent recent years writing the novel, Decline and Fall of Alternative Civilization, and producing a radio-like dramatization of it which is online. Last year he posted new SPOT music at his bandcamp page. In recent weeks I read off lists of the names of his well-wishers to him and SPOT nodded at the mentions of his friends from around the country and the world."

Henry Rollins in the Guardian, on Spot: 

"Spot had a very old-school way of recording: fewer microphones, less mixing, everything live, like he was cutting a Charlie Parker side. My favourite album he did is The Punch Line by Minutemen, from 1981. They were very argumentative, so Spot would go: “OK, that’s the take. Shut up,” and they were smart enough to listen.

"I’ve never met anyone like him. He would go around for days wearing roller-skates. When Black Flag recorded Damaged, Greg Ginn wanted to hear what it sounded like in the studio, so Spot picked up Greg’s guitar and while the band were playing he absolutely nailed the track Damaged II, which is like math rock. Greg was an astonishing guitarist, but he was totally shut down. It was hilarious. The chess master got checkmated."

An interview with Spot and Joe

RIP Wayne Shorter

 

My favorite Wayne Shorter piece is this eerie, poignant track that ends Side 1 of Mr. Gone (otherwise a rather florid and exuberant attempt by Weather Report to hitch a ride on disco - and highly enjoyable on those terms, particularly "River People"). "The Elders" is a completely different vibe - I don't know what was on Mr. Shorter's mind when he wrote it, but the title suggests an ancient, impossibly wise race on some alien planet. (I've just been reading H.P. Lovecraft for the first time so I'm half-wondering if that's an influence, although the Old Ones is his formulation - and the ancients in Shorter's piece seem altogether more kindly). His bandmates contribute to the eldritch vibe wonderfully, particularly Zawinul, who arranged, and Jaco, with that damped-strings, percussively played bass-as-rhythm-guitar pulse.  

I first heard this when I'd moved from Oxford to London in the autumn of 1985 and my friends Amanda and Mark kindly put me up for a month or two in their West Dulwich flat, while I searched for a place to live long term, sorted out dole and housing benefit, and waited for a music paper to call me back with offers of work. A cassette of Mr. Gone was in Mark's collection and provided my first taste of Weather Report. I associate "The Elders" with that tentative time: moving to the big city, grey November days, and an empty flat (my friends would be at work during the day) with just their delightful cat and Mr. Gone for company.  

Of course, Shorter is all over this next record, which might just be my favorite album of all time (it certainly jostles  strongly with the other contenders) and would definitely be a disc to take to the proverbial desert island - for its inexhaustibility, and for the  way its peculiar combination of tension and serenity would provide both stimulation and solace in my isolation.

I know I was an awed Miles fan by 1987, but I can't actually remember if I heard In A Silent Way after Mr. Gone... if so, that would've been an odd entry point into the Shorter soundworld (especially as he was largely absent during Mr. Gone's making - the title came from Zawinul's nickname for Shorter during those sessions).  

But certainly after that I started picking up Weather Report albums in the Record and Tape Exchange, as it was still called then. Memory is fuzzy, but there might have been one or two I taped from the West Norwood library, which was surprisingly hip. 

 

Now I know that Joni worked with Jaco, but I hadn't realised until now that she also called on Shorter  for Don Juan's Reckless Daughter (as well as two of Weather Report's percussionsists). I guess at that point she really did want to make fusion, but with songs and lyrics. 

Dearie dearie me - I wonder what Mr. Shorter thought of the album cover...